odette 0 Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 It's take a while , but finally I'v got my anwsers from Wendy ! See the copie of the mail from Wendy below . Only now I have to find out if it is the TRUTH ?? So if anyone regonized the names of the parents of Takoda and the birthday's , purhaps then I can finally stop my search ! If there are people that have a brother or sister of Takoda's nest from 5-10-2005 , please let me know , so we can contact each other . On one hand I feel relieved , but on the other hand I'm very doubtfull , but time will tell if everything I'v done is worth it ! THIS IS THE COPIE FROM WENDY I RECEVIED : Hi Odette the information you asked I don't know by head but I looked it up: father of Takoda is Grey Hawk of Indian Summer Kennels , Silvergray 18-2-2002 out of Big Hawk x Mesa mother of Takoda is Hopi of SDK Europe 22-6-2004 of Silverhawk of Indian Summer Kennels , out of Silvergrey x Tadi , Silverfawn new bloodline indiana birthday of Takoda is 5-10-2005 I won't give you the name or adres of the breeder , because of the old unique indian dog bloodlines and I don't want more people to get by themselves a dog from this breeder to import , just like Beavers breeder I can't tell you how long it takes to get the papers because I also don't know exactly when but you can look for your self on the site of Dog registry of America about asking for the papers ect. groetjes Wendy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
judyk 43 Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 It's take a while , but finally I'v got my anwsers from Wendy !See the copie of the mail from Wendy below . Only now I have to find out if it is the TRUTH ?? So if anyone regonized the names of the parents of Takoda and the birthday's , purhaps then I can finally stop my search ! If there are people that have a brother or sister of Takoda's nest from 5-10-2005 , please let me know , so we can contact each other . On one hand I feel relieved , but on the other hand I'm very doubtfull , but time will tell if everything I'v done is worth it ! THIS IS THE COPIE FROM WENDY I RECEVIED : Hi Odette the information you asked I don't know by head but I looked it up: father of Takoda is Grey Hawk of Indian Summer Kennels , Silvergray 18-2-2002 out of Big Hawk x Mesa mother of Takoda is Hopi of SDK Europe 22-6-2004 of Silverhawk of Indian Summer Kennels , out of Silvergrey x Tadi , Silverfawn new bloodline indiana birthday of Takoda is 5-10-2005 I won't give you the name or adres of the breeder , because of the old unique indian dog bloodlines and I don't want more people to get by themselves a dog from this breeder to import , just like Beavers breeder I can't tell you how long it takes to get the papers because I also don't know exactly when but you can look for your self on the site of Dog registry of America about asking for the papers ect. groetjes Wendy Hi Odette! I agree with you on whether or not Wendy is telling you the truth. My gut feeling would be NO! NOw that she has been threatened she may be just telling you whatever so she's left alone! I, personally, have never heard of Indian Summer Kennels. Another red flag is that she refuses to give you the name and address of the breeder. I think it's a bunch of "BS" with regard to her explanation of not wanting to discuss the 'old unique indian dog bloodlines.' If Kim talks about his bloodlines and HE IS THE FOUNDER AND BREEDER something just isn't right. I think it's more lies being told to cover her first lies. I would not let it rest. Again, this is just my opinion. You have to do what you feel is right for you. Don't give up until you get the truth and your papers!! Judy in Michigan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
odette 0 Posted September 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Hi Odette! I agree with you on whether or not Wendy is telling you the truth. My gut feeling would be NO! NOw that she has been threatened she may be just telling you whatever so she's left alone! I, personally, have never heard of Indian Summer Kennels. Another red flag is that she refuses to give you the name and address of the breeder. I think it's a bunch of "BS" with regard to her explanation of not wanting to discuss the 'old unique indian dog bloodlines.' If Kim talks about his bloodlines and HE IS THE FOUNDER AND BREEDER something just isn't right. I think it's more lies being told to cover her first lies. I would not let it rest. Again, this is just my opinion. You have to do what you feel is right for you. Don't give up until you get the truth and your papers!! Judy in Michigan that's why I put the mail on the forum , to look if anyone can tell me something and heard of this indian summer kennel ! I may have the anwsers , but is it the TRUTH ?? that's what I'm looking for now odette Quote Link to post Share on other sites
judyk 43 Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 that's why I put the mail on the forum , to look if anyone can tell me something and heard of this indian summer kennel !I may have the anwsers , but is it the TRUTH ?? that's what I'm looking for now odette You are absolutely right for putting this up on IIDOBA. My own personal feeling is that it isn't the truth. Do you know of or have a personal friend that is an attorney that could write Wendy a letter DEMANDING answers and proof? Even if it's just one letter, this may get her a** in gear and give up the truthful answers, whatever they may be. You have every right in the world to know the truth. You love your pup, that's not the question. You do deserve to know where he came from. He certainly wasn't dropped by the dog-stork!!!!! Keep on fighting her. I'm wondering if she has anything to do with another breeder here in Michigan that was attempting to pass her wolf dogs off as AIDS. My husband worked very closely with the Michigan Humane Society to attempt to shut her down but that didn't come to be. Judy in Michigan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Allison 2,369 Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Hello all. I just returned, and I see that you have been very busy, these last two weeks. First of all, good for you guys! Nice work. Odette, I almost feel sorry for Wendy. Almost. You are such a firecracker, she doesn't stand a chance! Secondly, Odette, Kim is expecting me to work on getting Wendy's website down, and to help you so far as we can, so don't blame him. He is a Rancher and Breeder, not a computer geek. We are lucky to get him on here at all! I know this, now that I have seen his machine, last month---it's ancient! He can't even see everything on the forum--if you tried to PM him, he did not see it. (We are working on that too. ) Also, Wendy had removed all references to Kim from her web page, when he demanded that she do so. It was not until recently, when you were kind enough to tell us, that we learned that she had resumed using them. I have told you that your pup did not come from Kim, he does not know who the breeder is, and since Kim is the only sanctioned breeder in the states, any other dog from here is not an American Indian Dog. If there is other information that we can provide, let me know, and I will see that you get it. Again, really great of you all to accomplish this. I will keep you informed of my progress on the removal of her webpage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
odette 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 Hello all. I just returned, and I see that you have been very busy, these last two weeks. First of all, good for you guys! Nice work. Odette, I almost feel sorry for Wendy. Almost. You are such a firecracker, she doesn't stand a chance! Secondly, Odette, Kim is expecting me to work on getting Wendy's website down, and to help you so far as we can, so don't blame him. He is a Rancher and Breeder, not a computer geek. We are lucky to get him on here at all! I know this, now that I have seen his machine, last month---it's ancient! He can't even see everything on the forum--if you tried to PM him, he did not see it. (We are working on that too. ) Also, Wendy had removed all references to Kim from her web page, when he demanded that she do so. It was not until recently, when you were kind enough to tell us, that we learned that she had resumed using them. I have told you that your pup did not come from Kim, he does not know who the breeder is, and since Kim is the only sanctioned breeder in the states, any other dog from here is not an American Indian Dog. If there is other information that we can provide, let me know, and I will see that you get it. Again, really great of you all to accomplish this. I will keep you informed of my progress on the removal of her webpage. hoi Allison , I'm so glad that your back !! can you find out of the last information , you can see above , that I get from Wendy , is accurate ?? Do you or Kim know something about Indian Summer Kennel ?? I can't find anything on the web . And concerning the site of Dog registry of America , I'v looked , but I don't trust that for one bit ! And are you recognize the names of the parents from Takoda ?? so you see , these questions I'v asked Wendy , greate more questions !! odette You are absolutely right for putting this up on IIDOBA. My own personal feeling is that it isn't the truth. Do you know of or have a personal friend that is an attorney that could write Wendy a letter DEMANDING answers and proof? Even if it's just one letter, this may get her a** in gear and give up the truthful answers, whatever they may be. You have every right in the world to know the truth. You love your pup, that's not the question. You do deserve to know where he came from. He certainly wasn't dropped by the dog-stork!!!!! Keep on fighting her. I'm wondering if she has anything to do with another breeder here in Michigan that was attempting to pass her wolf dogs off as AIDS. My husband worked very closely with the Michigan Humane Society to attempt to shut her down but that didn't come to be. Judy in Michigan I'm starting now to look for legall steps I can make and write to Wendy Like I said , they maybe anwsers that I get , but is it also the Truth ?! I find out that the information I get from her , is not 100% the truth , so my search goes on !! I'm not finished yet with her !!! odette Quote Link to post Share on other sites
odette 0 Posted September 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 like I said , I maybe have the anwsers now , but I don't have the TRUTH !! about the Dog registry of America , I think that it is the most unreliable site I'v seen , because it's to easy to get regristration papers for any kind of dog !! and that for that price !!?? that can be worth much !! so my search and next steps goes on !! and if there are people that can tell me something about the names and dates of the parents of Takoda , I will hear from you !!?? odette Quote Link to post Share on other sites
judyk 43 Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 hoi Allison , I'm so glad that your back !! can you find out of the last information , you can see above , that I get from Wendy , is accurate ?? Do you or Kim know something about Indian Summer Kennel ?? I can't find anything on the web . And concerning the site of Dog registry of America , I'v looked , but I don't trust that for one bit ! And are you recognize the names of the parents from Takoda ?? so you see , these questions I'v asked Wendy , greate more questions !! odette I'm starting now to look for legall steps I can make and write to Wendy Like I said , they maybe anwsers that I get , but is it also the Truth ?! I find out that the information I get from her , is not 100% the truth , so my search goes on !! I'm not finished yet with her !!! odette I doubt very much if anything that Wendy has told you is the truth. You're right. She will probably lie to an attorney as well. Unfortunately, I don't think the truth will ever come out for you to get the information you deserve and need. You go girl!! Don't ever be finished with her!!!!!! Judy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Allison 2,369 Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 I did a search--No Indian Summer Kennels. But Kim's site came up! Amazing. No, you are right about the registry, too, just shysters. Heck, you can get a degree online, for money, too. Put your doctorate next to your registry papers! Maybe get your dog the doctorate--that would turn a few heads! I do not recognize the names, but I will certainly check with Kim. Haven't reached him yet. End of summer, lots of work to do on the farm. When we drove out of there, last month, they were digging rows for more grapevines, plus people buying horses...... When we left Oregon, just a couple days ago, they had a snowstorm, overnight! What a life. I can't tell yet, if it makes you old or keeps you young. I guess that's where attitude can really make the difference. Sorry to say, that I don't believe a word Wendy says. Good for you, though. You must have shaken her, to get her to respond. Is it possible that she is worried? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Josanne 0 Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 I did a search--No Indian Summer Kennels. But Kim's site came up! Amazing. No, you are right about the registry, too, just shysters. Heck, you can get a degree online, for money, too. Put your doctorate next to your registry papers! Maybe get your dog the doctorate--that would turn a few heads! I do not recognize the names, but I will certainly check with Kim. Haven't reached him yet. End of summer, lots of work to do on the farm. When we drove out of there, last month, they were digging rows for more grapevines, plus people buying horses...... When we left Oregon, just a couple days ago, they had a snowstorm, overnight! What a life. I can't tell yet, if it makes you old or keeps you young. I guess that's where attitude can really make the difference. Sorry to say, that I don't believe a word Wendy says. Good for you, though. You must have shaken her, to get her to respond. Is it possible that she is worried? I guess she is Allison, for we are making it very hot for her, that sure is what we're doing at the moment. Didn't know that Odette was pressing her also, but d... I was!!! She doesn't like this at all, can tell you that! She mailed me that she would pick up Chief and bring me the money I paid for him. Can you believe that? Pretty sure she's not gonna show at my home, she wouldn't dare... No guts... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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