Hey y'all. I need a little help here. I know the AID have been used a lot by _________ service dog folks but I can not remember the name of the outfit. I thought there used to be a hyperlink on the left side of the main forum. Was it Canine Angels? If so does anyone know if they have connections in the Chicago area? I have a uncle in Palos Park in southwest suburbs of Chicago who is suffering from M.S. He is semi ambulatory. He is a big guy around 225 and one of his biggest issues is loosing balance and falling over. Sometimes his legs get weak and he just can't stay on his feet.

Since we got onto this genetic talk I just found a great article we all should read (except Kim b/c he knew this already). http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2006/05/inbred-thinking.html

http://www.cafepress.com/darwindogs

Not sure if we are able to upload pics from our computer or if we need a photobucket. I posted a pic of the European lines that are (don't know how to describe it) Multi-colored - kinda like how a wolf can be mostly grey brown and black.

Star and Judy thank you. That was a point of view I did not consider. Makes perfect sense to me. Judy I always will remember you as "Lady with many dogs" I should put this in the other thread but Judy I got to talk with a very nice lady in Chicago area this afternoon about her 3 AID's. I am hoping to be able to check them out in a couple weeks. I told this nice lady a story you told on here couple years ago about "If all 7 of our dogs can't go on vacation with us then we do not go" some reason that has always stuck with me.

Personally I only know of Import GSD's. Seems in the working world that is all there is. Not to mention there are A LOT of exceptional lines. There are FRIII GSD's that are scary smart and have drives like a Malinois. I do not know what you mean by Brindle GSD's. Dutch Shepherds are brindle. They share a common ancestry with the old herders from 100's of years ago. Do you mean something like this? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1921652874669&set=a.1463236494546.2058571.1042471636&type=3&theater

Sherab I wasn't talking about American Lines nor Alsatian. I was talking about Czech/DDR/West German/Etc.

I also want to add I am not asking these things b/c I am looking for a AID to be a personal protection candidate/protection sport dog. However how the dog instinctually relates to it's environment makes for fascinating convo. If they can be the 'all purpose dog' and a rancher wanted one to tend his flock then there would be all kinds of things going on. So aside from 'training', taking a look from the raw talent aspect of the AID is what peeked my curiosity in this thread.

So does everyone's AID have some form of environmental fear/stress? My Malinois from birth was stimulated to go after odd sounds and noises. Even before they could really crawl the pups that wiggled their way to the bag of aluminum cans that was shaking or the clatter stick being struck on the concrete floor were rewarded w/ the bottle. The ones that did not progress quickly enough unfortunately did not stay on this earth for long. I was told they were breeding working dogs not pets. Some people go so far as doing bio-sensor training on new pups others think it is kind of hogwash and just over

I need to read through this entire thread. I may have been stated already but as a 'outsider' (and does LOVE this breed) I would like to point out 1 very big thing. AKC is as ridiculous a entity as PETA is. Did anyone hear about how two breeds were just disqualified from crepe's or whatever that large dog show was. They were disqualified as a breed b/c they did not meet the so called health standards and now the entire 2 breeds have to go back to the drawing boards in their prospective breed standards. Which should be a total slap in the face for these particular bloodlines (I know OEbulld

I could post this stuff all day long but here is another good one for all the new puppy owners. If anyone sees a video 'going down the youtube rabbit trail' feel free to throw it up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USoXzbwKZlA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=231ptiZCOfE&feature=plcp&context=C4db82fcVDvjVQa1PpcFOlf9A193sR9yNWJzUNwO0bJT8AK4c5Tps%3D Molly the point behind the 'click' is to identify the behavior that your dog just displayed. Marking it as the specific behavior that you were asking/looking for. The click is what you use to 'Mark" the behavior. You can 'Mark' a behavior with whatever you want. In our club the people who can't seem to coordinate their 'yes______'/'good _____' (with their voices) at the same time they reward the behavior displayed will often be put on the 'clicker'. Clicker trainin

HA I did it! This is a small victory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDbPvTOoCE8&feature=related Shaping a behavior using the principal of luring (positive reinforcement/clicker training)

If y'all have never seen these or are not friends with Francis on FB you will really enjoy his videos. I personally love his flavor and approaches to dog training whether it be Ringsport or Canine Circus School. If I lived in Cali or on the west coast I would totally make a trip out to his place. Enjoy ( Allison on this new forum format how to you get the actual video hyperlink to appear? )